Congratulations Apprime, HaSu and 7:6
Well played all 3!
Lets hope for different politics next round and a more open race. Maybe without so much salvage from steals and attacking fleet? Edit: Don't let anyone marginalize your achievement, you earned it! |
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thx!
/me lapdances with Nacho |
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Theam, remember that just because the competition(read YOU AND ME) suck, that doesnt mean they suck..
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Hey Imperia, do you want to attack Apprime with us tonight, together with CT and ND?
Nah, we rather no do anything and cruise to second place and suck some more cock. Make the round boring for everyone, including us while gaining absolutely nothing. Okay! |
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Congratulations, i guess.
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Well done guys. In a bit of shock that App didn't get the treble!
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Yeah, that's the consolation I have, that at least I have ruined some things by suiciding my fleet on HaSu.
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Problem is Theam with the above statement never were ct/nd willing to work with imp but we have been over this 100 times.
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The end of the round is always the best part!
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i agree politics was shit, but thats a collective effort of asc nd ct imperia. if you think otherwise feel free to pm me for proof/reasons:) hugz and kissez Buddah|away |
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I guess this means the round is over?
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Please come again.. Edit: Also, yea, grats App, grats HaSu. App did nothing wrong (except maybe ruining their triple ;) ), so yes, they earned the win. |
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Fun how Asc/ND/CT were free to hit App all round, but chose to focus on Imp instead. Imp even stated they wanted to maintain neutrality :D You chose how you played your round Theam. Imp didnt even hit back till after a week, to show that we ment the stuff about staying neutral. But you were so bitter over the fact that we werent gonna hand you the roundwin right there that you had to keep attacking imp and let app run away with it. The round was boring as hell, but watching you fail like this compensated hugely. :D
Bottom line is; you have nothing to complain about, you created the political/military situation as much as everyone else. |
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You on the other hand obviously had the potential to go for #1, but gave it away by refusing to hit Apprime. You know, we chuckled about the fact you decided to play for #2. We didn't create the situation as much as you did, your HC refused to hit App in the first place. It's not like we could change anything about that, the round was over that very moment. And to be honest, your statement about "watching us fail" amuses me even more. It's a well known excuse for being shit while not wanting to admit it. :D |
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hahahah... so why do you play? |
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vamp mate, yea its a war game, but i guess one has a choice who to hit and who not.. so guess that was the choice of imp this time (actually i got no clue what happened as i didnt play last month of the round or sth :D)
neways, grats to HaSu and Apprime, win is a win :)! |
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Some things can never change :salute: Congrats. |
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Asc had the option to halt app while imp killed off nd/ct, and then asc and imp could have cooporated on app leaving it a 3 ally race the last half of the round, but you chose to have imp as enemies. Point is, Imp chose to go one way politicly(temporoary neutrality), Asc chose not to allow it and in effect helped GIVE the round to App. App still deserved it, they outwarred you early on, outroided everyone and influenced the political environment in a favourable fashion. As for your last statement there, read my second post again; i clearly state that the competition sucked, including myself with capitol letters. Stop sinking your teeth into lemon after lemon. |
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ruler; i state app outwarred you because of asc-members own statement midround, asc were still #3 with full control on the allies behind and had several top planets(including shazna). Even if you were outwarred, you were far from beaten. |
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If we go back to where this emerges from, in terms of this thread, we have theam disagreeing that one, some or all of the three you mentioned "earned" their victories. Now, as far as I'm aware hasu finished ahead of henrik due to massive salvage donations. I have no idea how he "earned" those. Sure he logged in and attacked enough to be in the position for these to get him to #1 but if that's all you were trying to say why bother saying it? If you look at 7.6 I'm not sure if that galaxy has been attacked at all this round. Again they were obviously active enough to get to and stay at #1 but y'know 'duh'. Even for apprime I imagine a round like this feels a lot less satisfying than round 32 or 34. I know that the different rounds I've won always meant more or less to me because of what we'd done during those rounds, and indeed in some cases meant basically nothing. This is not about not winning in any sense. I do not care about winning solely for the sake of it. The fact is that this was a dire round with so little worth remembering in it disgusts me. My opinion is that this is not how this game should be played. If you disagree you have my pity. The first line of your post really sums things up though. You're an idiot. However all men are redeemable. I hope your post is just angry bluster and not an actual tacit acceptance that there's nothing worth learning from that happened this round. |
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Seeing no other way to really make the round interesting, some of us hit Imperia and some of us just stopped playing, with more and more people from the former group moving into the second group as the round progressed. The "war" against the horde was a direct result of this quitting, along with the shitness of certain members of Ascendancy. If your war against ND/CT ever finished (I'm not sure if it did, enlighten me), all other alliances worth mentioning would've been reduced to rubble (us by Apprime, CT/ND by you), leaving just you and Apprime. Apprime would then have had the option to nap you and win, or fight you and win. The alternative suggested by Ascendancy was coordinated targetting of Apprime, which would knock them down to managable levels (as mass incomings always do). This would've been good for everyone except Apprime: * It would have kept Ascendancy at least interested in the round. * While it would by no means guarantee Imperia's round win, it at least kept you in the running. This is true even if you believe it also kept Ascendancy in the running, which I would contest but is irrelevant to the point. * Cooperation against a shared enemy would also have lowered tensions between Imperia and CT/ND, even without the explicit promise by ND/CT that they would not resume hitting you, which Titos unreasonably and unrealistically insisted on. As for Apprime, napping Imperia was a masterstroke. I'm not sure if the it was really necessary, but it did reduce the risk of facing a unified universe by an order of magnitude. I don't know if Cardinal intentionally planted Firebird in Imperia, but even if he didn't, Firebird's presence there certainly didn't hurt Apprime's interests. Furthermore, Cardinal's refusal to break the nap with Imperia, even when the risk to their #1 finish was next to nothing, testifies of an interest in more than a single round win. I don't think it compares to some of the political play we've seen in previous rounds, but it's certainly a massive improvement over Apprime's usual (i.e. absent) political strategy. If they can keep that up, I expect good things from them in the future. A win well earned. [edit] I see that some of my points have been made by rUl3r as well. |
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The CT bit is true as far as I know and this was one of the things we couldn't change. But I think we can all recognise that in 5 days time apprime would not be dead and would probably still have been #1 or very close to it. There is no way we'd have turned away from a still very much alive apprime to beat up imperia (unsurprisingly we viewed them as considerably better than you) thereby completely alienating you at a midway point in the round. The ND bit is just a guess on your part and, in my opinion, a poor one. ND didn't really have much against you guys, they'd more just stumbled into a war with you than anything else. They were willing to work with you and us to hit apprime. They weren't willing to 100% guarantee you that they weren't going to hit you for the rest of the round but for ****s sake ****ing work with what you can get. What happened was that the option whereby firebird got to work with his friend, titos got to continue to be an idiot and buddah got to continue to do what he does best (nothing) got picked. This meant that you guys were pretty much guaranteed #2 because, as much we threatened and such, we'd obviously lose interest after a few days of just hitting someone to "punish" them. Clearly there was more risk involved in working with us to hit apprime but there was also far more to gain. |
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Dlr's 2nd attack was Dc'd by myself which = a land the 1st crash from dlr was done by me/hasu and a few others calling. As to carDi planting me in imp that was never the case as i very nearly went to vgn, I just knew in the long run i could trust carDi rather than the others ct/nd were never willing to leave us alone ct more so Santa/Titos and i believe in asc tried to get them to leave us alone. You can full heartedly thank Golan for my utter refusal to work with ASC kicking me from a convo good move on top of his mouthing off last rnd about me. Now to the NAP being dropped this was done by vamp and Cronix who were running app however with carDi being the one the agreement was made with carDi came on and held them to there words. I will say gratz to all winners this rnd. There were obvious donations on both sides which i had reported if MH fail to take action it will only encourage this to happen over and over again.
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Worth adding: imperia had the best group of players i've played with since r3, just not a structure worth the memberbase.
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I guess that says a lot about the quality of the players you encountered so far.
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From my point of view, the round went in the lines of this: -Apprime hit Ascendancy, we get face raped and look for help; -We establish an avoidance with Imperia, which is broken the second day; -We drop the avoidance and continue to be raped by Apprime, with the help of some small flak alliances and certain Imperia members; -After some talks, we NAP Imperia and try to get ND/CT along to hit Apprime and leave Imperia alone; -Imperia isn't willing to setup a clear attack on Apprime and just grounds fleets fearing ND/CT attacks probably; -Few days later, Imperia gets hit one night by Apprime and decides to drop the NAP with us and start a new one with Apprime to secure player ranks. That's my perception of the round and I'm fairly certain it is the same as most other people's. If Imperia manages to be trusted again at some point in the following rounds, it'll be a surprise for me. |
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For what it's worth, I don't consider Imperia's actions this round to have been untrustworthy as much as I think they were dumb.
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Well Pot kettle black springs to mind with all the other allies as well other than the one that finished on top.
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