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hyfe 6 Jan 2006 03:15

National Stereotypes
 
I started writing this post as an reply to another thread, but then realised I'm really ****ing curious what everybody else think, as I know my opinions stem from a really small sample sizes. Soo.. please write down your experiences with different nationalities :)

(oh, sorry if this is a shit thread)


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Norwegians are normal.

Brits are normal (albeit often smelly, ugly and have yellow teeth, aswell as slightly chubby and unattractivily pale).

Americans are superficial and say nice stuff to eachother without meaning it, have white teeth and are generally good-looking, most their conversation are on autopilot and hence they're not really listening. They're really ****ing afraid of confrontations, and If they offend somebody they'll just keep on smiling and pretending nothing happended. They're hard to get on with over time, as they seem so ****ing normal but inside they're all basketcases.

Russians guys are ugly, unattractive, generally ignorant and live with their parents waaay to long. Russian girls are beatifull, attractive, ignorant and generally have issues.

Spanish guys are weird as hell and spy on people with videocameraes. Spanish girls are totally ****ing unapproachable.

Khazakstanian people are really ****ing cool.

Moldovian people are really ****ing lying cheating scumbags, not to mention reasonably stupid, really full of themselves although still fairly likeable.

[edit: whoever modded me for having 1 grammatical error. Please **** off, that's still less than the average of you native speakers]

s|k 6 Jan 2006 03:17

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Nodrog 6 Jan 2006 03:17

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Im curious where you got that stereotype of Americans from.

hyfe 6 Jan 2006 03:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nodrog
Im curious where you got that stereotype of Americans from.

Americans in Russia :)

Mostly my neighbour, who was a southerner

vampire_lestat 6 Jan 2006 03:28

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Ok, here goes:
The English are the norm (by which I mean the educated english, chav's and emo's don't count).

The Americans are a bunch of closed minded arseholes.

The dutch are all stoned all the time (however the whole country seems to have been built for children outside of Amsterdam) and are waaay to lenient with their children.

The Scottish are aggressive, rude and very up front about everything.

The Germans are ruthlessly efficient and seem to have no time for any social niceties.

The French, despite being a cowardly lot, are actually quite nice outside Paris, however Parisians are a bunch of ****s.

The Welsh shag sheep and farm a lot, and are generally a bit slower than the rest of us.

The Spaniards like to indulge in cock and bum fun.

The Irish have a ****ing awesome accent and are generally quite drunk a lot of the time.

s|k 6 Jan 2006 03:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nodrog
Im curious where you got that stereotype of Americans from.

Why from this month's issue of Amerrycans Monthly!

Alessio 6 Jan 2006 03:44

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The English are the oddball of europe, and have to do everything differently
They come across as very decent people while being very smelly and uncivilized

Germans are the european Super Soldiers, jawohl bier und wurst

The French are arrogant and only think about personal gain

Americans are narrowminded and try to live up to stereotypes

North Koreans play Starcraft 24/7

Japanese take their camera's everywhere and take pictures of everything...
oh wait that isnt a stereotype.. Its real :')
They also tend to be high-tech freaks

Russians are the cool bad guys

Brazilians have fkin hot chicks, for low prices

s|k 6 Jan 2006 04:02

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Originally Posted by Alessio
North Koreans play Starcraft 24/7

Amazing how they can do that, considering they're all starving to death (only those N. Koreans without food ofc).

Alessio 6 Jan 2006 04:08

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I meant South Koreans btw
It's easy to mix them up because they all look alike

Tactitus 6 Jan 2006 04:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alessio
North Koreans play Starcraft 24/7

Kim Il Sung invented the Zerg rush in 1950! :D

s|k 6 Jan 2006 04:10

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Originally Posted by Alessio
I meant South Koreans btw
It's easy to mix them up because they all look alike

Yes imagine that, Koreans look like Koreans.

s|k 6 Jan 2006 04:13

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Originally Posted by Tactitus
Kim Il Sung invented the Zerg rush in 1950! :D

Also known for the invisible templar early raids of Black February, 1976.

Yahwe 6 Jan 2006 04:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hyfe
Norwegians are normal.

at this point one asks for evidence

hyfe 6 Jan 2006 10:21

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Originally Posted by Yahwe
at this point one asks for evidence

Normality is defined by the lack of abnormalities.

As such, good sir, you are the one who should bring evidence to the contraire.

DukePaul 6 Jan 2006 11:20

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Proof we Norwegians aren't normal? Lutefisk, D.D.E., the very location of Norway - why do we live here? :confused:, Dis, frozen pizza and and our sex morale.

Ok, I just compiled a list of links to various Norway-related sites, most of it is bullshit (especially that last one)...

Ste 6 Jan 2006 12:30

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English are smelly?

Have you never met a frenchman? Or a German girl?


For me: Scandinavians are nice if quite strange.

Irish - friendly drunkards (but don't annoy them)

Americans - Care a lot about their personal image and can't understand why the rest of the world doesn't want to be exactly the same as the US. Advertising seems to have affected them more than anyone else in the world.

Italian/Portuguese/Spanish - The guys are all over any woman that comes near them and because of this the women from these countries either expect a lot from a bloke or find it refreshing that a bloke just wants to talk to her instead of saying he loves her after being with her for 10 minutes "your eyes are like the moon" blah blah blah. English girls love it though.

French - Think France is the best country in the world for everything and hate anyone who can't speak frnech perfectly coming to there country.

pablissimo 6 Jan 2006 12:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Grounds-keeper Willy
Bonjour ye cheese-eating surrender monkeys


SilverSmoke 6 Jan 2006 12:52

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Funny, in my experiences most French people are shit except the Parisians, they seem to be more global minded. In the South they seem to live in a mindset of survival of the fitest in a more social context, they struck me as very narrowminded and superficial. I hated those ****s. I've never met a lot of people from the North though, it's said they're the most laid back and welcoming. Most of them really believe that France is some kind of advanced civilisation. For example my ex girlfriend (French) kept on moaning about the lack of integration of immigrants in Holland. I should text her about this nowadays..

The English people I know and have met in real live all tend to be easy going, a broad sense of humour and like to get pissed. English girls tend to be slutty and easy, loud and foul mouthed and have big breasts due to fatty breakfasts. Bad Teeth.

German guys are weirdos, especially when they visit Dutch themeparks. They always wear too tight pants and laugh like they're on stage of a hollywood production.

Polish girls are all blunt, gross, foul mouthed and nympho.

100% blooded indonesian people aren't very clever.

hyfe 6 Jan 2006 15:44

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Originally Posted by DukePaul
Proof we Norwegians aren't normal? Lutefisk, D.D.E., the very location of Norway - why do we live here? :confused:, Dis, frozen pizza and and our sex morale.

Ok, I just compiled a list of links to various Norway-related sites, most of it is bullshit (especially that last one)...

Neither of those qualify.

Every country has weird food. That's one of the defining qualities of what a country is; being able to all pretend to be able to eat some horrible dish which nobody else would even consider eating. Granted, the location is a bit off, but the weather is reasonably average due to the gulf stream. Dis doesn't deserve mentioning and frozen pizza is hardly important. And I mean, the main problem with DDE is that its to bloody folky and average, so there's no distict sound to it.

The sexual morale link was pure gold though

G.K Zhukov 6 Jan 2006 15:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alessio
I meant South Koreans btw
It's easy to mix them up because they all look alike

And they are all named Kim!

Blastoderm 6 Jan 2006 16:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ste
Or a German girl?

Please don't mention that again.

Blastoderm 6 Jan 2006 16:06

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Originally Posted by SilverSmoke
Polish girls are all blunt, gross, foul mouthed and nympho.

I give you everything bar blunt about Polish girls.

Russians would think that anyone else in the world who's not pure Russian is the scum of the earth. Or at least that's how they behave when they come to London.

hyfe 6 Jan 2006 16:24

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Originally Posted by Blastoderm
I give you everything bar blunt about Polish girls.

The polish girls I've met have been really ****ing nice.
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Russians would think that anyone else in the world who's not pure Russian is the scum of the earth. Or at least that's how they behave when they come to London.
They're all like that. Sitting around in a ****ing dumpster seeing their country crumble to pieces, meanwhile praises president Putin and how great he is, and worrying that in some point in the future the Chinese economy might even be larger than theirs. :rolleyes:

Demon Dave 6 Jan 2006 17:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nantoz
Just as every Vietnamese is named Nguyen.
True fact.

don't be silly. They're all called Charlie

Deepflow 6 Jan 2006 17:48

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South Koreans are bigger than North Koreans.

pablissimo 6 Jan 2006 18:16

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North Koreans are all nuclear supermen able to shoot lasers out of their eyes and each has the strength of ten capitalist pig-dogs.

dda 6 Jan 2006 23:45

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All Irish men have tiny genitals.

Sir Mordred 7 Jan 2006 05:28

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dutchies are living in tiny houses and are travelling in caravans.
Their veggies are genetically engineered.
holland itself is like a theme park; its main theme is weed. consumption of the same makes their visitors laugh a lot.

wu_trax 7 Jan 2006 10:27

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British always want to be special. They are also somewhat nationalistic, but at least they are more honest in it than the french.
The dutch like cheese, weed and caravans. They also love to annoy me personally whenever they drive through germany.
Russians drink lots of vodka

Ste 7 Jan 2006 11:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wu_trax
The dutch like cheese, weed and caravans.

Don't forget tulips, clogs, windmills and Hockey.

Heh I remember a really fit dutch girl at the last GD meet that me, pig, skiddy and yahwe persuaded to talk to us for half an hour instead of doing her job. (Yahwe got her number damnit) Pigs main contribution to the conversation was "Excuse me, Do you like Hockey? I thought all dutch people liked Hockey" He got a very blank look off her...

ReligFree 7 Jan 2006 11:22

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German girls dont shave there armpits!

IncubusGod 7 Jan 2006 19:40

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Originally Posted by dda
All Irish men have tiny genitals.

Why do you think we drink so much? [/stereotype]

Ephor 7 Jan 2006 20:42

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The English upper class generally don't have a clue, but are good fun so long as you play their game. The working class are amicable, as long as they're not too aggressive. The middle class don't know they're born.

The Welsh are docile, short (too much time down the mines etc) and welcoming in the south but fairly hostile in the north. Rhyl is full of mancs and scousers. The Scots have a chip on their shoulder deeper than Loch Ness, except for the skagheads who are too busy indulging their vice. Us Irish are stupid, raging Catholics who drink too much when we can't rob banks or blow up the Brits. If (or rather when) we move to the British mainland we insist on buying irish brands even though they only import shit.

Britain, with it's climate of cynicism and arrogance, likes to think it's superior to the rest of europe and indeed the world and should be in control of affairs. With a few exceptions, this is a notion I would support.

KoeN 7 Jan 2006 22:07

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Brits
binge-drinking and gambling. lack taste but have a great sense of humour. appreciate tea and warm beer with no foam. interested in technical subjects, sports and world-politics. often make a fool out of themselves when abroad. way too conservative. minging.

Germans
always right and always on time as well. a perfect colleague. hairy and smells bad. good taste, lack of humour. highly efficient. too much salt. vorsprung durch technik.

Scandinavians
clean but blonde. speak their languages. show great respect for everyone, even when they shouldn’t. can’t hold their drinks. speak funny. IKEA.

French
overrate themselves. work hard and never go on holiday. patriotic. appreciate life. fit women, sexy language. mean, strict and arrogant. they didn’t deserve such a beautiful country.

Belgians (Flemish)
major lack of self esteem. hate their Wallon countrymen (with a reason). focus too much on the Dutch, should go their own way instead. don’t know how to party, but strangely enough do know how to organise great events. preserving their national heritage well. cute people.

Belgians (Wallon)
See ‘French’, but change “work hard” by “lazy as ****”.

Italians
quick but macho. too macho. loads of gel. love blondes, mothers and grandmothers. tight shirts, pretty women. know how to appreciate life and get the best out of it. Italians should count themselves lucky for being born in Italy (and not Finland for example (although they’d have more blondes then)).

Spanish
fiesta. siesta. living on our money. the Spanish are the lower variant of the Greeks. could be be famous for many things if they’d have spent less time sleeping in the past.

Americans
loud and patriotic. lack culture but can’t be bothered with it. nor with their lack of taste. religious. generally nice, but not too smart. shouldn’t eat that much and start respecting others.

Canadians
treehugging hippies. unlucky for having the USA as their neighbours. fit girls who are a bit slutty too. not really cool, but nice enough. enjoy their underdog position.

Russians
for sale on internet. pig-faced. mysterious. should spend more money on decorating the house and less on vodka. heavily depressed.

Japanese
copy-paste. childish. should stop dying their hair. small but think big. eat cats, dogs and raw fish. enjoy watching fat men wrestle. produce real sick porn and cartoons. bizarre.

Dutch
we should stop overrating ourselves. face it: we live in a shite country, with shite people. there are worse places on this planet, but certainly better ones as well. i will choose to immigrate to one of these better place in a later (hopefully near) stage of my life.

HK 7 Jan 2006 23:07

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This is actually quite an amazing thread. I just took a subject called ethnical and racial stereotypes and their influences on history (i study history in a university) and this was a voluntary subject and I took it just because it was rather interesting. And what I learned from this class is that people are different and that we should accept them as they are. If people were the same everywhere then life would be extremely boring. To be different from others should be what an individual should strive for. I also learned that national stereotypes don't really exist (in the real world, that is, in your illusions/minds they might). Thus this thread is invalid. Stereotypes, myths and imagos (images) are just creations of our minds which help us define ourselves. Unfortunately quite a few of them are bad (all black people are thugs, gangsters and hookers) and not so many are good (all black people rock in basketball). We should try to understand that all cultures are relative and can't be characterized from one culture's (the white or originally by J. F. Blumenbach the caucasian culture) standpoint. All men (and women, heh) are equal and should be treated as such. Stereotypes are, as I stated before, mostly harmful things and in the right (wrong?) hands they can help in creating havoc (for example WW1, WW2 and many, many other wars and conflicts). I know that this thread is about having fun and laughing at each other and all but after I took this subject I've really started to think beyond these simple jokes. Stereotypes create illusions and they aren't real, thanks :)

G.K Zhukov 7 Jan 2006 23:27

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Norwegians - The dream of a norwegian is to go to one of the pole, and go across it on ski's.
For those who are not having that much spare time, you can go acroos Greenland instead.

I just saw that a norwegian set a new national (probably world) record on days on ski's at the poles, alone.
He ousted Bjørge Ousland from the throne. Im sure mr. Ousland will take revenage and organize another trip for himself.

Leshy 7 Jan 2006 23:51

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Originally Posted by KoeN
Dutch
we should stop overrating ourselves. face it: we live in a shite country, with shite people. there are worse places on this planet, but certainly better ones as well. i will choose to immigrate to one of these better place in a later (hopefully near) stage of my life.

But that'll just make that other country shit instead!

G.K Zhukov 8 Jan 2006 00:03

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Aha! That is the reason by the recent influx of dutchies here!

demiGOD 8 Jan 2006 00:56

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English - Heavy drinkers and very funny and friendly. They have a lot of American jokes.

Scottish - Very friendly, heavy drinkers, smoke a lot of cigarettes, very blunt, funny.

Germans - Friendly but boring. They eat a lot, but they have good food so I don't blame them. Cheap hookers.

French and Danish - Snobs. They wouldn't speak to you if you didn't speak their language even if they spoke English.

Maltese - Young, party people, drunk and horny.

Spanish and Italians - Very friendly. They eat a whole lot, very religious. Decent priced hookers.

Polish - Very attractive. Cheap hookers.

Dutch (downtown Amsterdam types) - Drugged. Expensive hookers.

Greeks - They eat a lot. Overweight.

Hispanics - They love to have sex. Very attractive. They're very good cooks. Big tits.

Asians - Kinky, eat a lot of rice and noodles, Martial Arts experts. They have horizontal vaginas.

African-Americans - They're good dancers, and good in bed. Some are fat, and probably have Sickle Cell disease.

Americans - They smile a lot even when they're embarrased. They say "Hi, how are you doing?" without caring how you're really doing 98% of the time, and they eat very unhealthy.

All Systems Go 8 Jan 2006 01:00

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Originally Posted by horn
i wouldn't be so sure about that mate.
Obviouly saying something like "people of jewish parentage love money more than others", is clearly rubbish.
But if you look at something like we were discussing in a a different thread just the other day about japan for-instance. It might be a stereotype that they are more reserved (at least in manners of expression that we assosiate with the term "reserved"), but it might also be right.
Yes stereotypes can lead to awful things but that doesn't mean that they have no basis of truth.
if you were reffering to rather more trivial stereotypes, then i'm pretty sure no-one (here at least) believes they hold much ground.
lolz the french smell garlic

I have to disagree with you here. For example, a number of people have given the British stereotype, but when you break down Britain into smaller areas you find that the stereotype has no basis in reality. Stereotypes only make sense if you are ignorant of a particular culture.

hyfe 8 Jan 2006 01:18

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Originally Posted by demiGOD
French and Danish - Snobs. They wouldn't speak to you if you didn't speak their language even if they spoke English.

Wow.. Danish snobs? bear-drinking easy-going doesn't-give-a-**** Danish?

they probably tried speaking to you in English, but their intonation is so ****ing weird you didn't even notice :p .. sounds like they have potatoes stuck in their throats

G.K Zhukov 8 Jan 2006 01:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by All Systems Go
I have to disagree with you here. For example, a number of people have given the British stereotype, but when you break down Britain into smaller areas you find that the stereotype has no basis in reality. Stereotypes only make sense if you are ignorant of a particular culture.

So there is no cases where a sterotype has some relevence to reality?

All Systems Go 8 Jan 2006 01:27

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Not outside of comedy. A joke about a Londoner is only funny if you know nothing about Londoners. the more oyu knoe about the area the more specific a joke has to be. Lumping up people in one group because of where they live is like saying all back people carry guns.

hyfe 8 Jan 2006 01:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by All Systems Go
Not outside of comedy. A joke about a Londoner is only funny if you know nothing about Londoners. the more oyu knoe about the area the more specific a joke has to be. Lumping up people in one group because of where they live is like saying all back people carry guns.

No, it's the same as saying Black people wear guns often... which for some bloody large areas of large US cities is probably 100% true.

I mean, the larger the group, the higher the expected miss-rate of the stereotype. That doesn't make it invalid though, or useless.

Alessio 8 Jan 2006 01:34

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Stereotypes are based on truths.
But its a simplified version, based on the image a certain group :up:

All Systems Go 8 Jan 2006 01:37

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Originally Posted by hyfe
No, it's the same as saying Black people wear guns often... which for some bloody large areas of large US cities is probably 100% true.

I mean, the larger the group, the higher the expected miss-rate of the stereotype. That doesn't make it invalid though, or useless.

A stereotype based on statistical analysis isn't a stereotype. If I said all French people smell of garlic it would be a stereotype. If I found evidence emperical evidence to back it up it wouldn't be a stereotype.

hyfe 8 Jan 2006 01:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by All Systems Go
A stereotype based on statistical analysis isn't a stereotype. If I said all French people smell of garlic it would be a stereotype. If I found evidence emperical evidence to back it up it wouldn't be a stereotype.

I didn't mean statistical analysis. There is a large distintiction between saying 'All French people smell like garlic' and 'French people smell like garlic'.

The latter sentence I will clearly identify as a stereotype / prejudice when you say it, and I will expect a miss-rate. The first sentence, on the other hand, is invalidated by me meeting a single person who doesn't smell like garlic.

With the second sentence, when I go to France, I will expect to find a much a larger percentage of people smelling like garlic than back home. Finding large sub-groups or large quantities of people who doesn't smell like garlic, will in my opinion not invalidate your statement as long as there are more people smelling like garlic on average.

And this is my point, a stereotype doesn't have to be perfect to be true, because nobody expects it to be. All it takes is for the statement to be distintictivly truer than its negation.

demiGOD 8 Jan 2006 04:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hyfe
Wow.. Danish snobs? bear-drinking easy-going doesn't-give-a-**** Danish?

they probably tried speaking to you in English, but their intonation is so ****ing weird you didn't even notice :p .. sounds like they have potatoes stuck in their throats

I did end up with a small group of dont-give-a-**** girls in Aarhus. We were bar-hopping and yelling "SKOL!!!" all over the streets of they're little downtown area. Generally though, I noticed they didn't want anything to do with us bloody Yanks.

hyfe 8 Jan 2006 15:21

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Originally Posted by demiGOD
I did end up with a small group of dont-give-a-**** girls in Aarhus. We were bar-hopping and yelling "SKOL!!!" all over the streets of they're little downtown area. Generally though, I noticed they didn't want anything to do with us bloody Yanks.

Skål :)

Getting laid as a foreigner in Scandinivia is notoriously difficult though.

Chunderbunny 9 Jan 2006 14:21

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Originally Posted by Ephor
Rhyl is full of mancs and scousers.

Hahaha thats funny as... Ynow Rhyls were they send all the junkies nowadays?


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